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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 04-05-2009, 12:20 PM Thread Starter
 
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Does this Blast sound normal?

About a week ago, I told my grandpa, who rides motorcycles, that I was looking for one. I told him I really wanted an '08+ Ninja 250, hoping he might help me finance one. So he called me back later that day and told me about this cool little Buell Blast that he got offered for cheap. As unenthusiastic as I was, I was polite and said I'd give it a look. Before I got a chance to, two days later.. he bought it.

So before I buy it from him, I just want to make sure it's not a total piece of garbage that's actually worth the $1.2k he payed for it. :P

First, it's an '05 with about 4k miles. It has handlebars with a piece of foam across the middle that says "RACING," and a very worn "Buell Racing" decal on the tank. He fired it up, and the thing was vibrating so bad that I could see the buzzing of the speedometer create a double image. It also sounded pretty rough and definitely left a somewhat heavy smell of exhaust in the air. So then I hopped on and we went riding into town.. After probably 5 miles or so of ~50mph speeds, the vibration in the handlebars had started making my hands itchy and numb. I also had trouble with shifting into false neutrals pretty often. Overall, it felt like I had this fairly small and loud hunk of vibrating mass under me that wasn't putting out as much power as it sounded like it was (but still plenty for me to learn on).

So what do you guys think? Does the vibration/sound/power seem normal? Are the fumes just worse on motorcycles, or is something off and should I expect not to get the claimed 70mpg? Are the false neutrals normal and just something that I'll get over as I get used to the bike?

Thanks!
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post #2 of 5 (permalink) Old 04-12-2009, 06:08 AM
 
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Thumbs up 1 cylinder vs 2

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the bike is normal ...

The Ninja 250 won't have that vibration because as a twin, it's balanced out better. HOWEVER, you'll feel a lot of "buzziness" on the Ninja 250 - you'll probably like that even less. I posted a reply in a different thread "Ninja 250 vs Buell Blast" that spells out the differences in power band pretty well.

I really think you'll like the Blast in the long run as it'll be a bit easier to ride and the performance level is better (but not by much - the power band is just easier to find on the Buell). You just have to work so hard with the Ninja to get any type of performance out of it.

Your grandpa got that Blast for a pretty sick price if he only paid $1200 for it. I'd hop all over that - that's a great price for something 3 or 4 yrs old with only 4k miles!!!

And as for the sticker issue??? Well, (since the Blast's fenders and tank are plastic) you should be able to remove them without too much effort. Use a hair dryer to heat up the sticker and work to remove it. If that doesn't work because it's a crappy sticker, just put a wet wash cloth on it for a few hours and then work to remove the sticker portion. Clean up the area with "goo gone" or "oops" or even mineral spirits to get the rest of the sticker residue. AFTER YOU'VE DONE THAT, PLEASE REMEMBER TO CLEAN THE SURFACE WITH SOAP AND WATER!!!! You want to remove any trace of the solvent you used to remove the glue from the sticker.

As for the exhaust smell??? The bike might need a new sparkplug, but after only 4k miles, it should still be in great shape. Keep one thing in mind too. Because it's an air cooled single cylinder bike with no choke ... some sort of automated something or other ... it's gonna be cold blooded!! It should run much better when it's warmed up and it shouldn't smell like it's running rich.

I can't quite address the false neutral issue. We're not having that issue on ours. I'd make sure that the bike gets a good oil change and see if that helps (assuming that the tranny and engine use the same oil). It's possible that whoever had it before hasn't changed oil in a while and you've got some bad stuff running through the bike.

Good luck and keep her on two wheels!!

Last edited by Fishmac; 04-12-2009 at 06:14 AM. Reason: Didn't address one of his concerns in his thread ...
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post #3 of 5 (permalink) Old 04-12-2009, 10:45 AM Thread Starter
 
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Thanks for the response, fishmac! There are also a couple other things I noticed. Sometimes, (haven't exactly figured out when, yet) when I'm trying to downshift as I slow down, it just grinds. It's possible that the false neutrals and that grinding are just me needing to get used to the clutch and shifter.

But also, the mirrors vibrate too bad for me to see anything out of them. Any suggestions?

I'll check the spark plugs, though the oil was changed already. Thanks so much!
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post #4 of 5 (permalink) Old 04-13-2009, 07:32 AM
 
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RE ... Blast v Ninja 250

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Thanks for the response, fishmac! There are also a couple other things I noticed. Sometimes, (haven't exactly figured out when, yet) when I'm trying to downshift as I slow down, it just grinds. It's possible that the false neutrals and that grinding are just me needing to get used to the clutch and shifter.

But also, the mirrors vibrate too bad for me to see anything out of them. Any suggestions?

I'll check the spark plugs, though the oil was changed already. Thanks so much!

I am by NO MEANS a motorcycle genious - especially when it comes to the Blast as we've owned one for exactly 48hrs now - ok, maybe 40hrs.

It felt like to me that the clutch / shifter combo is just a bit "less advanced" than what you might be used to if you ride another bike. My thought is that it's engineered that way to minimize damage (as these are the bikes that Harley uses for their "Riders Edge" Beginning Riders Course), but it doesn't lead to the most positive shifting in the world. It is possible that there's an adjustment that needs to be made, but it's pretty tough to diagnose anything without being near the bike. My recommendation though is to just make sure that you're really firm with it when you shift until you get used to it and find the happy medium.

As for the mirrors ... I noticed some of that too. On this bike, it really seems to depend upon the RPM. I'll play with ours a bit this morning (although it's supposed to be a high of only 44 and RAIN today ) and see what's up with it. My only recommendation with the mirrors (and it could help with the vibration in the handlebars) are HEAVIER HANDLEBAR ENDS (WEIGHTS). It's always been the trick for buzziness on inline fours, I would think it would help here too. BUT, before you make that change, I'd get a little more input. Because the "vibration" is different, heavier weights might make it worse, and maybe lighter ones would be in order (but I doubt it). I'd just hate to have you spending money for nothing (unless you get your chicks for free - a little Dire Straits reference ... Dammit! I might be showing my age there ... ).

I wish you luck with it! I'm running the wife's Sporty down to the HD dealership for service and my FZ6 is up at Fort McCoy, WI so I'm just gonna have to take the Blast out and see what she can do!
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OK, did that. A couple of things ...

There are NO handlebar weights or ends. That pretty much rules out that option. One thing that I did notice though was that while I was riding, the vibration in the mirrors was reduced by my grip on the handgrips. If I used a firm grip, there was much less vibration than if I took my hands off them or had a loose grip.

Secondly ... Ours shifts pretty well ... again, firm shifting should get the job done. But except for moving between 1st and 2nd, there was no confusion as to what was happening. No grinding, just a positive "THUNK" of moving to the next gear.

I'd definitely at least call a dealership and explain these issues to a qualified service writer or mechanic. Again, since you got yours for a pretty good price, it might not be the worst thing to take her to a dealership and let them give her a once-over - call it the 1,000 mile check-up or something like that. It might cost between $200-$250, but if there's anything that can be adjusted, they'll make the fix.

Sorry I can't be more help.

Last edited by Fishmac; 04-13-2009 at 09:52 AM. Reason: I'm a retard.
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post #5 of 5 (permalink) Old 05-20-2009, 10:16 AM
 
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try bar end mirrors, i have some on my blast and it helps. you still have a lil vibration but i think they are better.
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